The Bookkeeping Project Part 7

Have you ever believed something about yourself, then later discovered you were wrong?! If so, you're not alone.

In this honest episode, Amy opens up about some personal struggles she's experienced in the past few months (and how some timely advice came from a colleague who recovered from burn-out through self-care).

The key message of this episode is, “If you're going to be in business for a long time, you need to prioritise self-care! There is no business without you.”

Podcast Info

Episode: #033

Series: General

Host: Amy Hooke

Guest speaker: None

Topic: The Bookkeeping Project Part 7

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Hello, Welcome back to The Bookkeepers' Voice. Today I'm going to be doing the bookkeeping project update We're up to month number seven and I am a week behind. So by the time you're listening to this, for me, I'm still in July. But for you listening to this, it's now going to be August. Where did July go Everybody!? Can you believe it? That July is already over .

I'm quite stunned, even though it happens every year!

Anyway, it's gone. July's gone. It's August. Sorry, I'm actually way behind. And the reason that I'm way behind is because I actually took a week off podcast two weeks ago.

I guess I was trying to think what to talk to you about today.

I thought I might make this episode a little bit personal because I want to actually share with you the reason why I took a week off the podcast

And what's been going on behind the scenes here for me. Both. That's Savvy and Off The Hook Bookkeeping. So I did share last week a little bit about how I discovered that I work 60 hours a week

Now, actually, that's just probably me. I'm going to tell a little bit of a story. Just a detour actually hadn't planned to do this, but so just imagine how you might feel if you found out that you're not as tall as you thought you were. I don't know if that's ever happened to you. It probably has never happened. Except for maybe when you're still growing, you might have actually thought to yourself.

Um, you know, you used to be, let's say, 158 centimetres tall, and in the next time you measure yourself your 161 or something like that. So you've gotten taller.

Um, obviously, once you become an adult, you don't really sort of keep getting tall. I think one you hit around 22 or I think even earlier for girls. It's 18 or 25. I don't really know, but anyway, obviously we stopped growing.

Now I had a little bit of a situation happened a couple of weeks ago. I was sitting on the couch in the lounge room with my husband, William, who you all know.

I was sitting on the couch together and we were just having a little chit chat back and forward, and I just I think we're talking about height. So we've got a little spot on the wall where we measure to say how tall the kids are. And, you know, we sort of make the little mark on the walls just a little, not obvious one, because we're renting. So we have to make sure we can wipe it off before we move out. Otherwise, we might lose our bond.

We measure the kids and we're having a little chat to them about how I get taller and things like that. And then I said something to William. I just made some comments about me being 5'7″ or whatever. And he laughed. When I said me being five foot seven, he actually laughed at me and I was like,

“Why did you just laugh when I said my height?” and he said, “You're not five foot seven”, and I was like,

“Yes, I am !”. And he was like “No you're not” And he was laughing. And I said, “What do you mean? I'm not five foot seven? That's how tall I am.” He's like “Your'e not!” And he was just laughing. William is six foot. So basically, yeah, he just laughed. And I was like, “Okay, like that's a bit rude. Why are you laughing?”

I said, “Do you think I'm shorter than five foot seven or taller? Why are you laughing?” And he said, “SHORTER!” And I said “No I'm not”.

I'm not short . And then anyway, So he said, How tall are you? In centimeters? .

And so I said,

167. And he's like

That's not five foot seven. And so anyway, he actually looked it up on his phone and he said “No”. And then so then I looked it up online. And I was like, Ah, 5.479 feet and I was like, “Oh, am I five foot four?” And he said, “No, no, no. Because then you've got to convert it into inches.”

And I was like “Right, so how does that work out?” Then he told me like… Yes, obviously I talked that into Google and have a look. And then I found out… five.

I'm five foot five.

…five foot, 5.75 So let's say close to block with five point six . But I'm actually five foot

Oh, my gosh, I can't tell you what…. I was really affected by that, to be honest, like, because I've told people that I'm five foot seven.

…ever since I thought I was five foot seven. So I don't know where I got the information from. I've told people for years I was five foot seven, and I've never had anyone laugh at me before that William just cracked up laughing, and he's like, No, you know, I felt like a little bit Well, I was quite upset, and I wasn't upset for any particular reason, except for the fact that I'd believe something about myself for so many years that was actually untrue. And I've been telling other people, and that's what I believed that I was. And so I actually wasn't even telling the truth about myself. But I was telling what I believe the truth was, but I was actually wrong because I had made a mistake.

Oh, my gosh. So I was, like, for a couple of hours, like I didn't really wanna, you know, kind of have a conversation with anyone. So if you know, may I am not, um I'm a bit of an introvert, and actually, I am introvert. You'd be surprised, given that, you know, I do podcasts and stuff like that. I'm sort of one of those borderline ones that goes in or out for being an introvert, but I think I'm heavily on the introvert side. So I like to kind of go…. and process things, but I sort of have to…I didn't want to talk to him for a little while. Not because I was offended with him or anything like that. It really shook me that I'd believe something for so long…. That wasn't actually correct. Um, and also, there was a bit of like, I was a little bit of sadness because I was like, Oh, my gosh. Like I'm not as tall as I thought I was. Like, I thought, Yeah, you know, five. What? Obviously, like five foot seven… I wonder if that's average for woman or like, slightly on the tall side.

I actually thought that I was taller and I was like, Oh, my gosh, like I'm actually like two inches shorter.

…or maybe not two inches, like maybe 1.25 inches. I'm not exactly sure. Um, and I was a little bit confused by the fact that five foot seven..

…sorry 5, 167 centimeters, these five…

5.5 foot that's five and 1/2 foot. But then you've got to convert those two inches. Sorry. Anyway, it was a little bit confusing for me trying to figure out. I was disappointed and as William's talking to me, I like, “Aww” . And anyway, for a little while he said, you know, I kept saying to him, I am five foot seven. And you know, for a little while like, it took me actually a little while to accept it. It took a little while. My brain just didn't want to accept it. I'm like, No, I am five foot seven. And you know, it was quite funny in a way, like it was a little bit amusing as well as being a bit sad, you know? And so I don't know if you've ever… sort of discovered something about yourself that you had not realized about yourself in that kind of thing. But it's just one of those things, you know. It's not a big deal, but it really did make me think

Oh, my gosh. Like I'm no, not this tall. I thought I was.

Now, obviously my husband, he was able to look at me and like he knew because he knows he's six foot. So he knows, Like what my height was comparison to him and I was like, “Oh my God”.

So now I can just get back on track to what was originally going to say, Which is I shared with you last podcast that I…

you know, I have shared on multiple podcasts… You would've heard me say that I only work… that I worked 30 hours. A little while ago, I checked my time. I've got a time and it goes in the background. Just tracks everything that I do. I never looked at it. I was awakened when I checked it. I realized I was working 60 hours a week. And then I said to my husband, “Do you know I work 60 hours a week?” And he's like, “Yeah.”

Everyone else knew before I knew that I was not five foot seven that I was not working 30 hours a week, so obviously everyone else could say it. You know, some of my clients were saying comments to me. I've even said on a podcast before, you know, like, people message me and say, How do you work so much? And you must be so busy. And I'm I'm not busy. What are you talking about.

Um, no, you don't have to work 60 a week. And I thought, Oh, my gosh. Now it makes so much sense. And so it was quite funny. And like so I hired a new marketing manager and… And I know this is the bookkeeping project I'm meant to be talking about off the hook, but I'm going to get to that point in a minute. So in Savvy I hired a marketing manager and I'll be working with her. And she's amazing. Renae. She's gonna be working in some about clients at Savvy helping them with their marketing strategies. But she's also helping us with ours, and she's just absolutely fantastic. And then anyway, so she came in and we had out. You know, we have spent a couple of weeks together intensively, going through everything and her getting all the you know, my goals out of my head into the marketing plan and that kind of thing.

And she said, Okay, so she made a list of what's priority and that kind of thing, And she said to me, All right, number one priority is that you don't burn out because if you burn out, there's no Savvy. There's no hope…. like we're relying on you, um, you know, to pay well and to be able to direct the business and also like, yeah, you know, she knew I was working 60 hours a week.

And I said that.. . Gosh, like, you know, and it was funny because I hired staff to help me reduce my hours. And actually, because I had the wrong people in the team, it actually worked out that I… That's how my hours went up so much and, you know, because I ended up doing my job and the other person's job as well. And so that's why I was working double. I just felt like I was exhausted. And then I said to me she was talking about something She said to me, Amy, what is your strength? What are you really good at? And I said, Oh my gosh, I don't know.

How did I? Um, I know what I'm not good at. And she said, “Okay, start with that.” so I said to her and I still can't believe I said this, but this is what I said. I said, I'm not good at housework. Um, I'm not really very good being a wife, and I don't actually think I'm a very good mom, and she's like,


I'm sure you are.

But you're working 60 hours week and was like,


When we were having this conversation … I wasn't feeling. Obviously, I wasn't feeling very good about myself. Otherwise I wouldn't have said such a negative things about myself. But that's how I was feeling at the time. I just felt like I'm not really good at stuff, you know. I couldn't see the forest for the trees. I couldn't really see kind of what was going on. And I was not able to say past, you know, three things that are very important in my life, which is, you know, obviously my husband, my marriage, my children, um, and then the environment that we live in and I actually the whole suggested and I'm not a very good cook. And then I said, Oh, actually, I'm a pretty good cook, but I don't like cooking. Thankfully we've got a thermomix and it helps me. But anyway…

Yeah, well, I was feeling really down, you know, like up until that point that I was meeting with her like I honestly hadn't been sleeping, you know,… wake up two or three o clock in the morning, and I would sometimes go and do some work. Or I would, you know, read or most likely, just lie in bed for, like, three or four hours, like, just with my head going round and round. And I just …


I didn't actually kind of join the dots, So she said to me, alright , sowe can solve the 60 hour per week problem now. And I was like, really, how? Because what I was thinking is that she come in, she help me with this marketing strategy, and we'd sort of roll things and then the team, you know, she'd start managing the team, and that would gradually free up a bit of my time. And, you know, we work towards this goal of reducing my house from 60 to 30 a week.

And she said, “Yeah, we can solve that now. That one's easy.”


You just you don't have to work 60 hours a week if you want to drop from 60 hours a week to 30 hours a week. Just work only 30 hours a week. And I thought, “Oh, my gosh. No, not one of these people that simplifies on trivializes things that are actually really serious.” And, you know, you know what? What? I was just thinking, How could you actually decide that? But secretly, you're thinking, could this actually be true?

So later on, in that way, it was actually Friday. So Friday morning…

…she basically said to me, Um, I got into the Friday and I looked at my time shade where we were recording my time, and I saw that I've done 28 hours.

Oh, wow. That's so cool. Like, if I do two more hours work and stop and don't work on the weekend, I could actually do that. So I went to to my team and I said, Hey, guys, I've never actually shared this with you before, but I don't know if you know, you probably don't know, but I work 60 hours a week, and I've been doing it for a long time and you know, it's affecting my health, you know, affecting a lot of things.

This week, I'm pretty close to, you know, my goal is to work 30 hours a week and I'm about to hit that goal in two hours. So what I'm gonna do is take the rest of the day off. I'll be back in the afternoon for two hours. So if you need me, just sent me a message. I'll be back then… And it was really good. Like the team were really supportive. They came back and said, You know like you gotta look after yourself in that sort of thing. And so now, for two weeks running, I've actually worked 30 hours a week, and you know how easy it was to stop working 60 hours a week and go back to 30 was really easy and that made me realized. And the thing that was… Oh, my gosh, like that means it's gonna be a massive dropping my income. Guess what?

It's the end of July, and there has not been a drop in my income. Are you serious? I've just doubled my profit This is amazing. And what, actually realizing that, like, that's 30 hours away. Now, I'm not saying that anyone can just go from 60 hours a week to 30 hours a week. I do have a team of staff and it just happened that within that week or two transition period had started handing over a lot of the work that I've been doing to one of my staff members who was really proactive and really just, you know, on the ball with things. So that was sort of a bit of restructuring happening there.

But I realized, you know, if I stopped and I didn't do it like, it wasn't the end of the world and, you know, I started to notice like I got a bit fearful like I started to think. Oh, but you know, because I went once it was set. By the first week, I was sort of relieved and I actually slept a lot. And then I jumped into, you know, jumped into the next week. And then when I sort of got close to my 30 hours, I thought, Yeah, you know, I'm gonna do the same thing again And I took a little bit more time off, sort of earlier on in the week, and that was really good. And I did have these moments where I'm like, Oh, my gosh, what's gonna happen, What's gonna happen? And you know what? Nothing happened. I thought, you know what I mean? What's gonna happen is if you burn out, there's no jobs for all of your staff. And there's no savvy and there's no serving your clients anymore. And there's no, like it's all gonna be gone. And the cool thing is, so my marketing manager,

Rene, she's absolutely amazing. She had this big business and, you know, in the fashion industry… They had a couple of major supplies pull out off her business and so that, you know, put a massive financial burden on the business. And she, you know, she reached a point of burning, and one day she just got up and she said, I can't do this anymore. She went in. She let those you know, like a large amount of staff and close the business stand right on the spot and So then she spent 18 months recovering from that burn and really taking the time to, you know, like for some self-care. And, you know, she has now reached a place where she can actually meet with someone else who's, you know, in a business whose needing that support and she's just come along perfectly the right time to be able to give me the wisdom and the knowledge of what she's actually been through. But the cool thing is, she's come along in time that I didn't have to burn out here because I don't know if you guys remember. But a couple of months ago I spoke about single touch payroll, and obviously leading up to that was, you know, it was a great opportunity to teach everyone about single touch payroll and obviously set up in our business. And so we partnered with M Kay and Katrina… I come along its guests and then what I did was actually, you know, in a partnership with them created from their content, created a portal, a learning portal and a whole lot of extra. What I did was, like, you know, sort of optimize their, you know, a huge amount of resources and added a few of my own as well and turned it into, like, sort of like an online training we ran, like, are working sessions and things like that, but that wore me out and I didn't actually realize, but I worked 100. I've worked close to 100 hours that week… that we were trying to launch the STP project. And then what happened was we had this huge amount of work coming in as a result of that.

And then I from there, I just really dropped the ball like and because I didn't have the right team in place to support the work when it came in,

I just like, yeah, I was, like, So behind. I had to apologize to multiple people who'd, you know, like purchased our service. And I really just felt like I let a lot of people down and, yeah, like it was it was actually really hard time. But I didn't realize how much of an impact it actually had. Like the least amount of the impact that happened. I mean, I'm so thankful for our clients because, hey, so you know, I can't. It's our understanding. And so, you know, like, yeah, just fantastic. Like, you know, I was able to say I look, you know, there's a couple things happen and then even, you know, likely we had a bit of a staff turn over and everything happened at once, and I was able to say, Look, you know what we're actually struggling on. We just need a little bit of grace And, you know, everyone was happy to extend that, and yeah, and so, like, nothing really terrible happened, but the thing that was kind of almost terrible is that if Renae hadn't have come along at the time that she did, I was so close to burning out. And I think if I kept going, like, another month or two the way that I've been going on, you know, and I'm not saying like, 60 hours away, isn't it? I mean, a lot of people work way more than that, Like, I'm not saying 60 hours a week like poor me. But what? I was struggling. And that's the reason, you know, for the two weeks that I've done the 30 hours awake. My house is so tidy, I'm able to spend time with the kids and being able to spend some time with my husband as well. And I realized you know what it had done, what, working so much and put me in such a negative mindset, Not just the negative mindset, but I literally had 30 hours a week less available time. So course I'm not gonna be good at all those extra things when I'm trying to invest, you know, so much time into the business. Like if you're working 30 hours more than you think you are, it's not a surprise that you don't have as much time or energy to invest into the other things that you care about. And so through that, I was able to press the reset button and thankfully quite quickly. Now I don't feel that I've completely recovered. Like I do you feel that I'm still a bit burnt out,

Um, but on an overall sense, like it's just, like so much better. I feel like I'm back on a regular pace. I feel like I'm back on, I guess you know like walking in step with the spirit. You know, I'm not just kind of racing, racing, racing, like people like it. You know, I just kind of been really explain that, but I need to explain it because you might have experienced it yourself.

Anyway, I really hope you don't mind to be sharing so personal today and why I'm in a head space where, you know, I'm trying to think of how I can share this so that it's inspiring for you and see how I can share it in a way that, you know, this, like, three dot points of how to overcome, um, burnout. How to double your hourly rate in two weeks and get your house clean. I can't even come up with those dot points right now… I just really feel that you know, it is a point of reached a point in my business where I have to come and be able to openly and honestly say to, you know, the amazing, wonderful people that tune in and listen to me talk every week. I just have to say, you know, like, firstly, thank you for being a, um you know, a lot of the feedback that I get and this is quite amazing. Like being an introvert, like awfully through my whole life being, you know, um

odd. And I like it. I haven't necessarily someone who really enjoys getting out there and speaking in front of people in that kind of thing. But it's just not on it. And, you know, like, I haven't really been someone who's had, like, lots and lots of friends and things like that, you know, I just, like, have my little no, my sort of little like one two, one sort of relationships and, you know, like close, really close friends. But, you know, to think that their ah, some weeks we'll have 600 bookkeepers from around, not just in Australia, about around the world, who just tuned in to listen to me. And the other thing that makes me laugh as well. I thought this was the sweetest thing. Ah, a lady from our group called Paula…Hi Paula if you're listening, I hope you don't mind me saying this. But Paula said that she has a file…and Amy Hooke file in her cabinet. And I just thought, That is so sweet and I actually realized that, you know, there's a lot of people out there who say to me, You know, I listened to your podcast. And a lot of people said to me like, I feel that I keep them company and you know I have…. I haven't had a guest speaker for a while because I've been so unorganized. That's the truth.

And, you know, I've got a guest coming in two weeks.. . You don't not gonna have to always just listen to me go on and on just all on my own. I just I have dropped the ball and I will be truthful with you that I haven't been able to manage everything. And so you know, in light of all of that, obviously, I haven't really prioritized keeping to the level that I would like to because, you know, my real passion is savvy My rules my real love in the business is this, with bookkeepers. . Now that said, the bookkeeping business is growing silently, and I've got a little client base now, and that's all good. I'm actually really enjoying that. I've been doing some actual little bit more on the accounting side, have been doing some accounting collection, put portfolios like that. A guy that I used to work with my three accounting firm raised work with. Actually, he tracked me down and found me somewhere from LinkedIn or something like that. And so, yes, I have engaged him, and I've been helping him with a couple of things, and he's about to onboard his business, too. May as well have been working on it…wants me to do his company as well, and so that's good. I'm enjoying that. But to be honest, I don't feel that I prioritized it to the level that I need, you know, to be able to grow it to the way that I initially said that this is what I'm gonna grow it too. So I guess I'm sort of reached a little bit of a crossroad with all of this, and I guess, really, Now I'm just gonna put it back on to you guys about Like what?

Yeah, Like what would be helpful to you What? You know, in the bookkeeping project off, I've got, you know, different. Obviously, I've been doing a lot on developing processes, and I've been sharing those with you guys as I go, I'm in the process of, you know, working on I use a table for managing all of that workflow and things like that. So being sitting up this really cool..

air table work floor, which helps you to be able to, you know, keep track of where you're at with each of your client's … You basically you contract where you're at with all your best, and everything like that. But also, you can track all like which clients are on payroll and, you know, keeping trackable You, um you know, your end of you stopping work, covering the deposit all of those different things. I'm just putting that in place next. I like to have a high-level overview of where everything in the business is that and who the work's been allocated to do that. Who's responsible for and that kind of there. So I've been putting that together, so Oh, actually, share some of that with you in a little while.

So air table formats up with a link air table. And to be able to jump onto that and then when it's available of the outer share a sample with you. But I don't have a look at that because, you know, I think getting things organized in the business is you're always really good because it does help optimize your time and make sure that you stay on track with your delivery bubbles and things like that. Now, obviously, this is coming with someone who didn't drop the ball with ah lot of this stuff. Um,

yeah, and I guess it just comes down to what? Really? I think the big lesson that offline is like, had a prior toss.


and, ah, gosh, like, you know, setting up the time tracking systems I'm now… Actually, I actually wanted to track my time every week. Now, I don't leave it like I did before. I just need to never look at it because I thought I didn't need to, but, you know, and they're checking on that a couple of times a week. See how many hours I'm up to how many I got to at the end of the way, I've got an idea of how many I was available in that kind of thing and saying with the rest of the team,

Um, but really, you know, it was working with Renae helping me to prioritize, you know, And for her to be able to be, you know, like that was really great of her to be able to come in. And her first priority wasn't something to do with marketing. It was that I don't burn out. And so I think sometimes it just takes for that one person who's been through it before you and come out a lot of the other side to be able to say, Hey, look, I really understand what a right and there is a way out. I like, obviously, I'm trying to think of it like some kind of amazing lesson that can come out of this. And if this is what it is, then that's what it is like if you're you know, if you're that person that's stuck working the 60 hours awake or however many hours a week, you're working or, you know, maybe you're heavily leaning in one direction with your priorities. When I think sometimes it just takes someone to be able to come in and shine a light and say, Hey you know you…. I know you're in this room that's like seems dark and it feels like it's got no doors because often you can't see it, but like there's actually door right there. So if you go over to that door, you know, it's like Renae just switched on a light. Oh my Oh, there's a doorway. I can come back up right now. You know, I guess that's that, that the lesson that I've learned out of this… that I didn't need to work towards decreasing my hours, I… I thought it was gonna take me six months to get my hours back down, and it just took a second.

It just took a second, and that was it. I just made a decision. Also, I can't… I can't do it anymore. And to be able to then quickly see a difference in the things that I thought also terrible at which is stuff around the house. And, you know, being there with my family and having some emotional and mental capacity to be able to to do other things , I think bring back that balance. You know, like

I was asking my new client forms when I work with bookkeepers. That Savvy, I've asked heaps of bookkeepers if I have time for things outside of work and a lot of bookkeepers work really hard, really long hours in that kind of thing. And I guess you know, that's what I want to say. Look, I haven't made it completely out of the dark yet, but I do feel that with, you know, with Renae, you know, they're on my team now, and in my corner, you know, she's able to actually champion me through these process es, you know, like she's helped me sit like a morning routine, you know, to be able to do a couple of things to start to actually like, look after myself. And the funny thing is, is, you know, I thought I was looking after myself like I knew. I knew that, you know, something wasn't right.

But I didn't know what it was and you know, to have that wake-up call and realise that I am not actually five foot seven, I'm five foot five. I like it is funny, but to work out, you know, I'm not working 30 hours a week… You know, everything else in my life it's making my house messy, my kids grumpy, my husband spend too many hours staring at a screen… yeah, just really is an eye-opener to actually see that… And to be able to now take a step back…

I need to actually look after myself. And, you know, like I've always had this sort of thing like, I don't know, I've always been a very hard worker and, you know, um, you know, obviously for those of you have listened to my earlier episode on my first episode like I left home when I was 15. And so not by choice, I've been working so hard for a large portion of my life often And you know, I think what's happened is it's being a very ingrained habit. There's never really being I've never felt like when Renae was talking about self-care routines and stuff holds. Like

she said, Yeah, I want you to write down every morning Three things that you love about yourself. Okay? Like what?. But… But I get it like,

Well, I actually understand now. It's not selfish to actually put yourself first. It's selfish not to, you know, And I realize now that I actually have a lot more available for, you know, the people that are most important in my life, which you know, like I'd love to say that it's you, but it's actually much, you know, my kids and my husband, and that's the way it's gonna be alike… That's normal. That's a good way to be. And you know, you definitely come a very, very close second after my family because, you know, I really love my community of clients. You know, You guys inspire me every day you are, why I do what I do. You know, it was you know, that's what I'm working the 60 and so much so that I can try and make out. You know, you make our products and service is better. But I realized You know, if I keep doing that, then you know what's gonna happen in the long term. It's not sustainable.

Anyway. Thank you so much for listening today. Thank you for listening to me share And, you know, giving may like the peace to know that I can come and share what's really going on. Like, I don't feel any fear of people judging me or anything like that. I just feel that it had to be shared. Um, you know, and I really I know. I always say this. I do want to hear back from you. I guess I'd like to hear from the bookkeeping project itself. And even from savvy, like, you know what it is that you know what you want would like me to focus on. Like obviously, I've got my ideas of what I want to focus on in the business. But if I've only got 30 hours a week…

What would you like to see? What direction would you like to see the bookkeeping project go? For example, What do you know? What would you like to see? Come from Savvy and attainment Savvy? You know It's really your feedback. And I love the feedback that we get from everyone,

but it's really all fade back that way. Would receive, um so I'm actually gonna give you my direct email address. It's *protected email*. I'm just gonna invite you. Just say please like e-mail me. I don't actually mind… like… I know I always put a call to post in the Facebook group or post a review and things like that, but mostly people don't. Um and so I don't know, many people… Bookkeepers are a little bit introverted, but I really love it. Like if you know, if you could a mail me and let me know what you would like to see because, at the end of the day, the reason we started Savvy in the first place is to serve you guys to be able this, bring something to the industry. That's our value. So, you know, if you guys tell me what that value is, what what's important to you? What would really help you send that through and I'll get my team onto it? We will be like doing it. So, um, and just whatever you want to say, just say it

Unless it's mean! No, I'm just kidding. If it's mean just send it through…people say mean things to me. I don't really care, but yes. Oh, um, cool. All right, Well, I think that's an episode. So let's just say goodbye, everybody. And I'll see you again next week!

Farewell July. You are gone from our life again for another year, and we'll see you soon!